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Tuesday 3 March 2015

Lynne Smith--The asshole put everyone in danger. Ive also spoken to him directly and got this. I wasnt impressed with his behavior. He has pinch chokers on all of his dogs including a min pin.


Lynne Smith
February 27 at 8:39pm
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Service Dog Kicked Out Of Sacramento Restaurant
A Sacramento restaurant is dealing with the fallout, after a man was asked by a manager to leave because of his service dog.The dog is a pit bull which the owner admits is not a typical type of ser...
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  • Heidi Schold What an ass... a service dog shouldn't say "do not pet" that is clearly the same as a "wet floor" sign, so someone cant sue you when it rips your face off.
    February 27 at 8:41pm · Like · 3
  • Sarah May Aggressive dogs= aggressive owners according to study. A lot of us have a lot of stress, even debilitating, but a service animal, a pit is NOT!
    February 27 at 9:03pm · Like · 8
  • Paris Wolf The restaurant did the right thing. Aggressive dogs make horrible working service dogs. Too much liability and danger.
    February 27 at 10:23pm · Like · 6
  • Wayne Webb "PTSD"? What about the trauma of having to be around a powerful animal that can quickly, easily and efficiently bite your face off or rip your throat out, with SIGNS on it saying "stay away" and "do not pet". Actually, the whole setup is a "sign" which says "fear me" or "mess with me at your own peril".
    February 27 at 10:23pm · Like · 7
  • Jan Smith According to the restaurant owner in one of the first articles, this pit bull growled at him as he spoke to its owner. That alone is legal grounds to eject any service dog from any premises.
    February 27 at 10:40pm · Like · 11
  • Allen James According to experts who have been training service dogs for years,Labs and Golden retrievers (and their mixes) and occasionally,German shepherds,are the only breeds that can be the ideal service dogs.
    February 27 at 11:57pm · Like · 8
  • Julia Lewis You'd think people would realise that there is a reason that the same breeds of dogs keep getting used, over and over again, as service and guide dogs.
    February 28 at 1:23am · Like · 5
  • Julia Lewis Our UK Guide Dogs charity, which breeds and trains guide dogs for the blind (it is the only charity that does so here in the UK) now always crosses labs and goldies. It has found that particular combination works the best. Either of these two breeds are also used by our other charities that train dogs as service dogs. You need a dog with a strong retrieving instinct, that actually wants to open your washing machine door and lift out your clothes, or take your purse in its mouth and hand it to the cashier at the supermarket. After all, that's what gundogs were bred for - to fetch and carry! And that is why pit bulls are not suitable!
    February 28 at 1:28am · Like · 3
  • Julia Lewis However, when it comes to hearing dogs for deaf people, working cocker spaniels (the English variety) score very highly, and several other breeds are good at the job too, because it involves different things and not all that retrieving or holding things in the mouth.
    February 28 at 1:30am · Like · 3
  • Heidi Schold claiming a dog is a service dog that makes you feel better is to me a joke, I feel better around my beagle, shall i claim he's a service dog so I can bring him everywhere with me, he would love to go everywhere with me, and it would make me feel better to not leave him at home.... By no means am I speaking of guide dogs and other types of necessity dogs like that... I mean this BS group of dogs being called service dogs...
    February 28 at 1:31am · Edited · Like · 4
  • Julia Lewis So silly, isn't it?
    February 28 at 1:30am · Like · 1
  • Heidi Schold I have PTSD from a Pitmonster ripping my beagles side open right in front of me, so what is the cure for me?
    February 28 at 1:32am · Like · 5
  • Julia Lewis Oh Heidi, what a nightmare!
    February 28 at 1:39am · Like · 2
  • Cameron Murphy I am an Army veteran with PTSD and other service related disabilities. I do not have a service dog, albeit, there are days that I wish I did... My dog wishes he was a service dog too because he wants to go everywhere with me. My choice for service dog would be a Golden Retriever or an Australian Shepherd. There's a veterans service dog business here in my state and they train a lot of shelter pits to become service dogs. In my opinion, a horrible idea for many reasons, but the new normal seems to be shoving these dogs down (at) our throats. They are plastered in just about every ad.... I have no qualms about admitting what they were bred for and it pisses me off when others deny that detail. Maybe as a group we need to express our concerns with the ADA and in courage them to define what a service dog is and which breeds cannot be service dogs! Seeing how some people lack common sense!
    February 28 at 1:45am · Like · 6
  • Heidi Schold got that right Julia Lewis, the "staffie" was a "show dog" - never did that before, he's always been good around other animals.... blah blah blah same crap different attack.
    February 28 at 1:47am · Like · 1
  • Anthony Michael Ridge I too am a Veteran, and suffer from PTSD, it is weird, somedays I am fine and on top of the world, other days I stay in bed all day. I now have a Golden retriever, German Shep mix, he is all golden but the shape and bark as a Shep, He too knows when I am 'under the weather', lays in bed all day with me, I would love to take him everywhere when I do go out, but he is very timid around strangers, never bites but lowers his head in disgrace and slinks over to me. I do not see the need to have a service dog for PTSD, I do not take any medicine, recommended but I hate pills, but to have a pit as any kind of 'service dog' is irresponsible and harmful to all around it
    February 28 at 2:02am · Like · 4
  • Stacy Renee Snow I have ptsd and am considering an emotional therapy dog. BUT if I had one that showed any aggression, especially a pit bull, I'd muzzle it. The asshole put everyone in danger. Ive also spoken to him directly and got this. I wasnt impressed with his behavior. He has pinch chokers on all of his dogs including a min pin.
    February 28 at 2:10am · Like
  • Heidi Schold I see a lot of people complaining about pinch collars, I have a beagle and if I dont put the prong collar on him he chokes because he's too stupid to know not to pull unless he has that collar on, I didn't want to buy one but a dog trainer told me to put it on my arm and pull it, they really dont hurt at all I was surprised. - Stacy that guy seems like a real tool.
    February 28 at 2:15am · Like · 1
  • Stacy Renee Snow They do long term damage and it's around their throat not their leg. They also tend to cause aggression because the dog associates the pain with social interaction. I'd love to see every owner who uses them walk with it on their neck, then their walker stop suddenly. I use a halti on mine. You should definitely try your options before settling for a torture device. It doesnt take the place of training and isnt fair to the dog.
    February 28 at 2:18am · Like · 2
  • Randy DeCarlo That's too bad - I've always wondered what eating in a resteraunt while a huge dog decides whether he would like my main course or make me the main course?
    February 28 at 2:19am · Like · 2
  • Heidi Schold My dog cant get more than 5' without coughing for the next half hour without the pinch collar, trust me I've tried several different types of harnesses and collars... I fear he will do more damage without one. I don't feel its a torture device at all.
    February 28 at 2:22am · Like · 1
  • Stacy Renee Snow Have you tried the halti and the easy walk harness? I know what you mean. Mine was a horror for most of his life. I use a martingale, but when Im unwell I back it up with a halti and he does great. I went through every gimicky trick they sell and those are the only ones worth actually using.The sporn also works for my mom's dog. He just wont let you put it on. I dont mean to sound judgmental or rude if I seem that way. I just have gone through it all and done my research too. I dont want any dog to deal with that. I wish I didnt have to go through those years of horrible walks while learning. If I could do it over again I would have never bought the pinch choker and am glad I threw it in the trash.
    February 28 at 2:52am · Like · 1
  • Rachel Q Acosta How terrible for our service men and women to be away deployment after deployment from thier children and wives every holiday, losing limbs, losing thier inner peace and sanity. And then to give them a Dog that could take thier cildren and wife away from them permanently or take one of thier remaining limbs. How negligent, such a disregard. WHY SHOULD VICTIMS have to be brainwashed into accepting a Dog that can make more VICTIMS?
    February 28 at 4:11am · Like · 4
  • Tim Worley I think having service dogs are stupid honestly
    February 28 at 4:15am · Like · 2
  • Julia Lewis Some very good comments from our side underneath the article.
    February 28 at 6:25am · Like · 1
  • Joanna McGinn REAL service dogs are great... they open doors, help clients dress, turn on and off lights, get food, pick up dropped objects... go to CANINE COMPANIONS FOR INDEPENDENCE to see what REAL service dogs are... as well as GUIDE DOGS FOR THE BLIND. THOSE are SERVICE dogs. Therapy dogs are another whole ball game all together.... and also even a 'service ' dog even a guide dog can be asked to leave a facility if it acts up.... but was working with handicapped kids back in the 70s and I've never seen that happen. But if you allow PBs as 'therapy' dogs... it's a mess. And the ADA rules do not apply although they are TRYING to get it and then reporting back to businesses as if they WERE enacted when they aren't yet. Sheesh... my dogs could be 'therapy' dogs .... they keep my heart regularized, I could claim...LILI is calm and would sit quietly, but Charley thinks everyone loves him and he HAS to go meet his fans. (groan)
    February 28 at 6:46am · Like · 4
  • Isabella Marie Heidi Schold actually the "do not pet" patch serves a very important purpose. It's there so that people do not distract the dog from it's concentration on the handler. Service dogs need to be completely tuned into their handlers at all times....See More
    February 28 at 11:48am · Edited · Like · 2
  • Rachel Q Acosta Isabella Marie sorry to hear about your seizures very good that you get a warning. You can't drive with them right
    February 28 at 11:39am · Like · 1
  • Isabella Marie Well, some people can it depends on what state they are in as the laws vary. People who have uncontrolled epilepsy should not drive but do anyway, which I hate. I myself do not drive, however I have never driven in my life, even though I only developed adult onset epilepsy 7 years ago. I have a severe phobia of driving. I never wanted to drive in my life
    February 28 at 11:46am · Like · 2
  • Rachel Q Acosta My cousin wouldn't drive either the med topamax that they gave her actually made her feel like she couldn't if she wanted too. Glad your not taking the risk. Good to hear from a person with a service dog for that purpose I can share with my cousin because maybe she could benifit we don't get to talk as much as we used to she has only cats.
    February 28 at 11:49am · Like · 1
  • Bonny Thomas Lee ABSOLUTELY RIGHT..Joanna and Isabella, in retirement my husband is the part time bookkeeper for just such an organization, an old and respected one here in the Roanoke Valley. The absolute perversion of our domesticated dogs (just a few who can make it as true "service dogs"..most however sweet companions that we grew up with ect. or our family dogs now) is a travesty in the form of fighting dogs, who make us "Feel Good" about our introspective selves...well, do you want to hear how I really feel!! Good remarks from both of you.
    February 28 at 12:01pm · Like
  • Isabella Marie Tim Worley, how is having something that saves your life, "stupid"? The blind can leave their home because of their service dogs. People with epilepsy like myself can not only make it possible for me to leave my house, but also saves our lives when they alert us to a seizure in cases where we can't sense one coming on. So I can lye down instead of falling and injuring myself. Before I got her, I did have a seizure that I did not sense coming on, and I fell while opening the over to take something out and fell on the hot open oven door. I was injured but not nearly as bad as it could have been. So I would have to disagree that service dogs are "stupid".
    February 28 at 12:19pm · Like
  • Bonny Thomas Lee Isabella, as mentioned above, St Francis Service Dogs here are the "real deal" you are talking about..one young woman I know has a similar problem and has been able to stay in college. There are also practicing professionals still able to work due to an actual service dog..I don't think Mr Worley meant to be unkind, I think he is just heart sickened as many of us are ,at the tragedy's resulting in the selling of large fighting breeds as "family pets"to the American public, particularly Pit Bulls promoted as "service dogs" Epilepsy is indeed a "life changer", I would be unable to work as a nurse, drive or do any of the daily activities most of us take for granted if diagnosed with epilepsy..god bless you. Bonny Thomas Lee
    February 28 at 12:55pm · Like · 1
  • Laurie Anne Thanks to Isabella Marie and Bonny Thomas Lee for sharing your experiences. Great information.
    March 1 at 9:33am · Like · 1
  • Anthony Michael Ridge service dog? for hat to take an arm or leg home in a doggie bag?!
    March 1 at 12:51pm · Like
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