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Tuesday 3 March 2015

Wayne Webb February 26 at 10:45pm · Edited This morning, I went outside to feed the sheep and heard the neighbors' great danes barking in a frenzy.. But the sheep weren't cowering over by the opposite side of the pasture and my Wife said "look, the sheep aren't afraid of them anymore.


This morning, I went outside to feed the sheep and heard the neighbors' great danes barking in a frenzy.. But the sheep weren't cowering over by the opposite side of the pasture and my Wife said "look, the sheep aren't afraid of them anymore." I said, "it's because they aren't after the sheep." The dogs were not near the fence and I noticed, through the trees, that they had something bayed up in the road. Then I noticed it was a man. I knew instantly who it was. There is a man who lives alone, to the north of us, and when his truck breaks down, runs out of gas or he runs out of money, he walks. I hopped in the truck and tore up the driveway, down the dirt road and sure enough, the 4 great danes had him bayed over by the side of the road circling, barking and menacing him. I have already spoken with the owner twice about these dogs running in a pack. They have already knocked two people down and hurt them. Anyway, I chased them off, took my neighbor back home, jumped his truck off, went back home, fed the sheep and went to work.....late.
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  • 16 people like this.
  • Heidi Schold wow that must be scary as heck for that guy
  • Lesley Karen Luscombe Awful. I don't like any SINGLE dog of any kind out on its own, let alone a pack of large dogs like Great Danes. Can you speak to an Animal Control Officer, and the owner again? Your poor neighbour really needs to do something pro-active as well. This is how a preventable tragedy occurs, otherwise.

    Thank you for helping your neighbour in need.
  • M.j. Brandt Oh woW! Thank you for helping him.
  • Lee Hindman Next time, shoot the dogs.
  • Wayne Webb Lesley, I sent the neighbor a text this morning. This was his response "I have 2 dogs once again Wayne. Also my wife just left the house and let my two out. They have not ever will bit anyone. I understand you hate dogs. I'm not nor ever will I keep them pined up."
  • Heidi Schold isn't it illegal to let your dogs just run?
  • Lesley Karen Luscombe So he's saying HE only owns TWO of the Danes? So one wonders where the other pair are coming from. He sounds an idiot; doesn't he understand that the FIRST time his 2 or 4 dogs 'bite' could end in a tragedy? Honestly, these people.
  • Sonya Del Rio Cerezo Make a report to animal control. They are obviously dangerous.
  • Carol Ashley He missed the point if you told him his 2 danes and his 2 danes friends had the neighbor held up on the side of the road. So he believes they wont bite OK But he needs to control his 2 or 4 danes from bullying people. One day when someone dosent step in, they will do much worse. with 4 they are bouncing that energy off of each other and if one decided to attack, the rest may follow. When it happens again I hope a video from a cell many convince him...
  • Lee Hindman Firm believer human life out weighs ANY animal life. Shoot the dogs......then call animal control.
  • Christy Cornell Both you and the man who was cornered by the dogs need to report it to animal control. If AC won't take a report, call the police and report it to them. Ask the police for a copy of the report and them take the copy of the police report to the AC SUPER...See More
  • Rachel Simas People like that shouldn't own pets. He's going to get his dogs shot, and it'll be his fault for letting them terrorize people on the street.
  • Christy Cornell Those dogs are CLEARLY dangerous at this point. Not a question of if someone is gonna get bitten, only a question of when. And if these dogs end up killing, it's a case of an irresponsible owner letting them run loose and not understanding what his dogs are capable of. THIS is why, as Great Dane lover, I WANT all Great Danes regulated with BSL specific to containment, owner capability, breeding restrictions and mandatory insurance ( I have it, why aren't other mastiff dog owners being responsible?) . With the proper owners, these dogs would have never reached this point of being dangerous, but after reaching this degree of aggressiveness, these dogs are a danger to society and I would not trust them not to attack even if the owner started taking better care of them or sent them to a trainer. Good dogs ruined. People and other animals are at high risk for death.
  • Jeffrey Sloan Thankfully they aren't pit bulls or the guy would likely be dead
  • Lisa Trujillo Great job protecting your neighbor. 
    BE careful. Did anyone see the post about the fireman that shot two dogs for coming on his property? I think.he might have gotten fired.
  • Paris Wolf That text the dog owner sent is something to show aco.
  • Laurie Anne Find out what the laws are in your community. If dogs running at large is illegal, have AC cite him. The guy confronted by the pack of dogs should report it. Be careful. Your neighbor may be a little nuts, and is being defiant and uncooperative by...See More
  • Laurie Anne Document everything. Keep a diary of dates and times. Photos, witnesses, videos, emails, texts in case you do end up in court or having to testify.
  • Dawn Dalyce Should have shot the damn dogs.... next time they might take you on...or you'll be too late to save someone !
  • Wayne Webb I was armed when I exited my truck. I did not have to discharge my weapon because they ran away. But they didn't go far.
  • Amber A Maclin From my experiences great Danes are great at putting on a show. Usually they scare off pretty easily. So I wouldn't have shot the dogs. May be fired a warning shot by then they would have ran off
  • Wayne Webb It is illegal and dangerous to discharge a firearm wiothin so many feet of a public road. I yelled at them and they quickly ran away so I didn't have to.
  • Wayne Webb But I feel much safer being armed.
  • Earl Upham Lucky man and good neighbor! Cheers!
  • Earl Upham You may use a firearm to shoot any animal who is killing or physically attacking any domestic animal or human. Packs of dogs are never a good thing. I worked with a man who years ago was building a house on some acreage and he told me one day he and his teenage some were walking on the road of their property when they spotted a group of dogs following them along the tree line and slowly moving down closer to the road. His some found a good sturdy large limb and sure enough they made a move toward them and the lead dog lunged into the air toward the man and his son knocked him out of the air and they all ran off. Always watch out for packs of dogs.
  • Wayne Webb The same "pack dynamic" which governs wolf behavior, is present in groups of dogs as well.
  • Earl Upham Like humans there are leaders and there are followers and unfortunately with dogs the smaller, weaker, less aggressive dogs will pack up with a more adventurous and aggressive dog and will participate in the "PACK" activities, which unfortunately may lead to an attack on some animal or person.
  • Olivia Wyatt Hey you saved your neighbor and that's wonderful.
  • Lee Hindman You can legally use a firearm to protect human life any time....any place in ALL fifty states (with the exception of shooting law enforcement officers obviously). Period.
  • Christy Cornell Amber, I've owned Great Danes since the late 80's. Many are exactly like you describe, but when there's a pack situation or even just two dogs, all bets are off. They will react off of each other and can sometimes work themselves into attacking when they normally wouldn't if alone. A two Dane situation is bad enough, but a 4 Dane situation is deadly serious. IMO, this is EXACTLY why many larger breeds (like mastiffs) need regulation.
  • Bonny Thomas Lee Never thought of great Danes in this context..they are indeed very large dogs..some large breeds ..Newfoundlands,Bernmese Mt Dogs, seem to be very "laid back"not so sure about St Bernards as to biting history..now if they bring a well martini..I am definitely a fan.
  • Sonya Del Rio Cerezo It really burns me up when I see people who are irresponsible pet owners, if you choose to own a dog, it's your job to make sure your dogs don't disturb the peace or run around loose. It's certainly not the job of others to have to watch out for/be disturbed by the pet you chose to get.
  • Sonya Del Rio Cerezo If I'm not mistaken, great danes are a type of mastiff....
  • Wayne Webb yes, they are.
  • Bonny Thomas Lee Mr Webb, should not have your neighbor said "never bitten"..you are so correct in your reply to Mr Tom Smith..AKA Mr runtogetherurwordsinserte profanityhere...ignorantinserteanotherprofanityhere..on and on. He wrote me too, I reminded Mr Tom Smith in an earlier post about his Mama & Grandmama reading his remarks but alas no reply as yet..probably best not to goad them.
  • John Wright Ever seen a live trap?
    Where the animal walks in grabs the bait and a door slides down. 
    I built one several years ago and ended up giving it to a friend to catch hogs. 
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  • John Wright If you have a neighbor who is endangering the neighborhood and you have tried to be civil, 
    ROAD TRIP! 
    It's legal to walk around your property dragging a sausage on a string anytime you feel like it. 
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  • Wayne Webb Man...you're talking about a trap big enough to catch a horse.. 
  • John Wright A dog will duck his head to get to a pork chop.
    And one at a time ain't that wide. 
    Those cattle pannels that are made out of 1/4" round stock or sheets of concrete reinforcement wire are plenty big enough to weld on (I've done it) the cattle pannels a
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  • Wayne Webb This neighbor's previous dog was killing my kids rabbits. tearing their legs off through the cage wire....and he has the gall to accuse me for "hating dogs" Geeze...I wonder why. Yeah, I love the trap idea.
  • John Wright Don't tell anyone, keep this to yourself but (It's fun when they come looking for them) just shrug your sholders and ask
    "Are you still letting em run all over creation" man if you cared about em you should have looked out for em.
    You might not want to put the trap right out in your front yard. 

    Just a thought.
  • Sonya Del Rio Cerezo The copy+paste +screenshot +stalk club is going to have a field day event with these posts... I can imagine it now: "Crazy man wants to trap innocent pet dogs". Of course they will omit any part mentioning the dogs running loose.
  • John Wright I had a Catahoula cur puppy a couple of months old come up to my house and the kids would play with it and feed it, one blue eye, well after a couple of months a friend of mine came by and wanted to buy it and I told him it was a stray so take it. 
    A w
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  • John Wright Sonya if they get mad they have the same britches to get glad in.
    There is an unwritten rule?
    It's unwritten rule #247 subsection C, paragraph 4:

    Keep your shit at your house, nobody else wants to deal with it.
  • Sonya Del Rio Cerezo Never a dull conversation with you John, lol.
  • John Wright Talking with you on different pages at the same time, I'm going to have to check to see which one this is.
  • Christy Cornell Great Danes are German mastiffs. Most all mastiff breeds decend from the molossar dogs and there have been hundreds of mastiff variations, many of them extinct now, but they were always used in war, guarding, and hunting down large or dangerous game. Some mastiff types even have a history of being used in dog fighting. Mastiffs were also the dogs used by the Romans in their gladiator bloodsports, attacking/baiting animals and also humans. There are lots of different named mastiff breeds in these modern day times, many of them originating specifically from a country like Great Danes from Germany, Dogue de Bordeaux from France, English mastiffs and Bull mastiffs from England, Dogo Argentino from Argentinia, and etc.

    Depending on the breed of mastiff, they may have had lots of other non-mastiff breeds infused into the modern day version. For example, the original Great Dane was VERY dangerous and looked very different from the modern day version. It changed because there has been a lot of sight hound (Irish Wolf Hound and Greyhound, both very low risk breeds for DBF) and a few other breeds added in through out history. In one of my books about Great Dane history, a german breeder is quoted as saying some of the original Great Danes even had long fur in order to better protect them from the tusks and bristles of wild boar. And when the Great Dane became a popular breed in America, the American breeders changed it even further by giving it a more refined head( less lip and smaller, less muscular jaws especially at the point where the jaws connect to the head) and making the body more refined. In my opinion, the the changes that the American breeders made, caused the Great Danes in America to be less dangeorous, but now that this stupid Euro-bred Dane trend has started, there are more of the heavy bodied and heavt headed/jawed Euro-bred Danes being bred/brought into this country, I'm afraid that all that is going to change. Personally, I wouldn't own a European bred Great Dane. There are lots of European Great Dane aficionados who would disagree with me, but that's just their opinion and I've got mine, so who's to say what's right.

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